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12:57pm Friday 4th July 2008
What do you think of the local council? And what's the best way to get results out of the council for our communities? That's the question that's been bouncing round my head this week, since it all
kicked off on the Walthamstow Yahoo Group.
The email forum is a place for locals to post up upcoming events, kick off debates and engage in the usual local arguments. Recently, there's been a bit of back-and-forth between two local
characters. This war of words, over uncleaned streets and Lloyd Park stabbings among other hot topics, has come from two extremes of view over our local council.
In the red corner, there's Keith. I'd guess his view of the council is they're a pit of vipers – inept, bungling vipers at that.
In the blue corner, there's Philip. I'd guess from his posts that his view of the council is it is full of human beings, trying their best to do a difficult job and occasionally getting it wrong.
What's the right view, though? How do we get the best out of our council – by treating them as vipers or humans? Clearly councillors and council officers don't actually have forked tongues
(although they do sometimes speak with them). But despite them being human, often their decisions are far from their best.
Too often, local politics Walthamstow-style seems to be about party political point-scoring, too often we get grand schemes without the detail or thought to back them up. Too often, council
officers seem to make decisions based on inertia and personal convenience, and without any real consultation or engagement with us, the community.
The Keiths of this world will write an angry, ranting letter when the council gets it wrong, maybe turn up at a committee meeting or two, perhaps even hold a demonstration. The Philips of this
world would rather we engaged with councillors and council officers – write positive, encouraging letters, give praise where due. Me? I'm in between.
There's a place for positive encouragement, and it's certainly true that beaten-down councillors don't have much incentive to help out yet another mob baying for their blood. But there's also a
place for angry protest.
I've been involved in a few of those, as well as being a regular "Angry of Walthamstow" objector to planning applications etc. And it works, if done right.
Our council is very aware of public opinion. Public demonstrations and letter writing campaigns really do work. The situation over the William Morris Gallery, for instance, may not be great. But
it'd have been a lot worse without Antiscrap kicking up such a huge fuss.
I guess I'm saying that as a community we need to work with our local council to help them get things right for us as much as possible. But we also need to make an almighty stink when they don't
listen. My motto for our community: walk quietly, but carry a big stick.
Dave Hall, Walthamstow says...
6:44pm Wed 23 Jul 08
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farrah, says...
6:16pm Sun 6 Jul 08
As we are discussing community ,
wanted to share my past month as I live in Leyton and work in zone one.
being a single woman and living a hectic travel and job last thing at the end of the day you want to know about is stabbing.
last month after work thought to do some window shopping with a friend and have a coffee walking down Oxford Street ,extremely busy Friday afternoon,sun is shinning bright and someone has just been stabbed.
Oxford Street is cordoned off and Ambulances and people and diversions.........
Few weeks past 8 o'clock in the morning and traffic is diverted from Leyton High road,apparently something has gone wrong ,some car crash maybe.On my way to home I listen it was a stabing incident on Leyton High road.
Could not be bothered or catch up more......continued walking home.
Few days past Central Line is disrupted had to walk from Leyton Tube station to Stratford only to know someone has thrown himself under the train at Mile End.
I am still trying to keep my head up and think be positive people have problems.
Last week come Thursday evening Leyton High Road is again cardonned off ,no one knows yet what happened police cars and sirens and you are lost in the thoughts......
Friday and my colleague calls in he has been attacked on his way home from work at 8 pm in zone 5 somewhere,The whole eye is blue,needed stitches on the forehead,lip needs some surgery the guy was knocked unconcious and left for police to collect him and Ambulance.
I know the reasons are different as different as the nationalities and cultures who are living in London.
But than that is what we love about London.
I am an immigrant when I came to UK I felt very safe but now I am always thinking am I going to be the next.
We cannot leave the responsibility to parents,schools ,police or government.
It is the local people who have to tackle and face it .
All of us must work on it together .It is enough to think about credit and debit instead we are everyday forced to think about death and crime.
It means we cannot ignore it any further.
what I mean to say is let us come together and try to bridge the gaps and try to understand ,our rights are there to help us not to segregate us .Can we still ignore the fact it is our youths without dividing them into any colour and race and religion.
Who ever is stabbed is a Londoner ,who ever stabbed is a Londer as well .......How can we just turn a blind eye and pass the buck,just because it was not me this time?
Community is a group of people everyone is responsible for the social well being.
we all must accept the responsibility of living together.